They only received compensation a couple of years later. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. As is seen in most cases, the primary action of any game takes place during the outset and ending parts. I am having this problem too. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? "Oh! Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . His Grand National, Murray Walker shouting in the last 2 kilometres really is unbelievable. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. And we have managed to cover his view on it. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. He has to engage with the directors in the ear, guarantee that innumerable hours of gaps are filled in suitably, deal with incoming radio announcements, all the while tackling an uproar of a different kind with the action around him. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. Tony Martin scared everybody with his breakaway, says Etixx chief. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. Eurosport cant get away with this !! Are you sure? And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. But it was here he developed the ability to call a sprint. No ! Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation, in: Car crashes into building - please post your Local news stories, in: Has cycling become F1? Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. wow, all the power to you man! Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. So, were close to the press guys who have spoken to the riders, and they wander up during the day, and weve been in place for two hours already, and we meet with you guys. So poor . We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. 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It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. London live show preview! CK: You need the details. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. After my tweet he at least toned that down. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. Stay tuned! For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). ). I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. You could hear a pin drop. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. Absolutely mad. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. What is his cycling background ? Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! 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I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Ive been up the Galibier. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. It is all kinds of stuff. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. Its the art of illusion. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo and more Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo, Tortec and more Vitus launch three bikes for cyclo-cross season. They kept the suspect in view and assisted us in the footchase before he was caught and arrested pic.twitter.com/QcQg7PBcsn, Wednesfield Police (@WednesfieldWMP) March 24, 2019. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. Help us to make it better. You must log in or register to reply here. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. The blokes an insult to all cyclists. Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. I speak no language other than English. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Log in or register to join the conversation. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. . https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. Tom Owen vents his fury after cycling blogger highlights verbal abuse on Box Hill, Geraint Thomas returns as domestique in experienced nine-man line-up, Summit finishes dominate opening fortnight with potentially pivotal time trial in final week, The best of the gear that's dropped into RCUK over the last couple of weeks, One carbon bike and two alloy models for 2016 'cross campaign from Chain Reaction Cycles' in-house bike brand. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? I talk about the same stuff, except Im making it up. 35m is 100ft. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. What you are talking about is a place in history. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. OK. And then, we wait. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. In my ear I have a producer telling me when we have interviews, drop-in features, ad breaks and cue points.. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. It is a thrilling climax and its my job to convey that to the public. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. What is the point? We have Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Magnus Backstedt, Dean Downing, Rob Hayles and David Harmon (who although is not the best at least it seems he is really doing some research and background checks on the riders and teams - he is clearly learning from Kelly as they sit in the box)but Kirby doesnt even do any background research. Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. This latest incident proves exactly that. Agreed. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. That is exactly what has happened now. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. That is the way it appears. Let us know what you think in the comments. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. . Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. Or at least diminished. CK:Its pretty bleak. If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. Uhhh, Ill say Bettiol. JavaScript is disabled. Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more.